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@Remittancegirl You speak for me and I think you can assume that almost always speak for someone. I hope you don't mind me splitting hairs here - off-topic too. What you meant was perhaps that you wouldn't assume speaking for everyone. Is that correct? I wish we could leave behind that trope that "I can only speak for myself". I have yet to find someone who can only do that. There's almost always someone else that can join and say - "Exactly, that speaks for me too". @pcsoblahdeehell @snigdha
@malte @Remittancegirl @snigdha My own take on that (FWIW, IMHO, & all the other caveats! :D ) is that on the one hand, unless there has been a relatively extensive discussion of a "tribune of the people" representative with others on a particular theme, it is true "one can only speak for oneself"; on ther other, experiences of common public phenomena (with given characteristics!) are rarely restricted to one individual: hence one may well accurately reflect the experiences of more, or many ppl!
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In other words, I think you are right!
At the same time, I wouldn't downplay variable - and in some cases, adjustable - factors (as I was trying to get at further up this thread!) :D
@pcsoblahdeehell I'll extend this tangential discussion a bit (and take responsibility for starting it!). I think there are some simple, clear principles that can cover the different takes you bring up (on the one hand, on the other...). The principles as I see them: When you say something, assume that you're not alone, that it will be the voice of a subgroup. Assume that there will be differences too - other subgroups. You're speaking for others, but not all. @Remittancegirl
@pcsoblahdeehell And an add: If you want to build healthy communities - expect to be joined on your perspective (create a norm for it, don't underplay being the voice of a group by repeating those tropes of the isolated, individual perspective). @Remittancegirl
@malte @Remittancegirl ~ We may be going a bit in circles and/or at cross purposes here, as I see no fundamental disagreement (or any variance at all, other than on angle of vision, and which dimensions we are prioritising in our viewpoints). I could not agree more that on vital issues, we should - even must - speak up, EVEN IF we find not everyone agrees with what we have to say! Take Musk, for example. (Or rather, reject Musk, for example ....)